Mahatma Gandhi Stamps : Is it GENUINE, FAKE OR STOLEN?

Hello Gandhi Philatelist,

Recently I saw a hand made paper cover with 1948 Gandhi stamps and cancellation from Indian Embassy of Nepal with dated on 15th August 1948 (I questioned about availability of this stamp on this date in Nepal.!!) which was also first day of issue of this stamps.!! It's indeed a unique cover (if Genuine??) send to Prime Minister of Nepal.!!

As all you know that I own this kind of private FDC( which I consider FAKE even though I paid $80!!)  from Indian Embassy of Nepal and wrote multiple blog post (click following to read)  about this only to bring awarness to all collectors.

 Cover with Nepal Indian Embassy Cancellation : Avoid Collecting (Investing) in Repression!!

 Nepal Indian Embassy Mahatma Gandhi 1948 Cover (FDC) with 1.5 Anna Gandhi stamp

I have following question about this cover before we can claim as Genuine.

1) Really send (given as gift) to PM ?? or just address.!!

2) Why not given on some authenticate envelope with some kind of Logo of Indian Embassy or rubber stamp of Emblem of India.?

3) Why not any detail who presented or gave this cover to him such as signature or rubber stamp of Ambassador of India or Consul-General of India.

4) Is there any other proof that it was indeed given to Prime Minister such as seal of Nepal Prime Minister Office?

5) If Genuine how this Government property or private collection is coming to Market for sale.!! 

6) Why hand made paper envelope ?

7) Even BPA or RPSL certification expert will be confused as it will very hard for them to find out that it was indeed send to PM of Nepal!!

If it is Genuine then  it is a gift and it should either be in museum or with some relatives of PM!!

I can get cancellation from local post office and type address to any PM or King  so it does not mean it was really send to that person or given as gift.  

So to me it is not worth collecting this kind of philatelic material send to some dignitaries.!! specially with 1948 Gandhi Stamps!! It's all BOGUS.!!

If it is Genuine cover (I don't think so) then it should be Stolen from NEPAL Government and People of Nepal. (seller might not know that it was Stolen!! He might be just selling it from stock he bought it from someone like we saw it in 1933 Tibet paper cover with Tibet stamps and 1948 Gandhi stamp with circular  Indian Embassy of  Nepal cancellation!!)  

Read more about : Cover with 1933 Tibet stamps and cancellation with 1948 Gandhi Stamps with Indian Embassy of Nepal Cancellation.!!

Also this kind of material don't come in auction without proper proof and with real owner. Let's take example of recent Gandhiji letter to his friend Kallenbach. It was for auction in July 2012 from relative of Dr. Isa Sarid, Kallenbach's great grandniece, money was giving to Sarid's son by Indian Government.!!  That is known as Genuine philatelic material.!!

If you buy without proper research then you will quit Gandhi Philately with Nepal Indian Embassy rubber stamp? !!

But who cares eBay is making money on this transaction and I hope PayPal is also making money on this sale.!! (Disclosure : I own eBay stock in my retirement account as well as recently I do trading of eBay stock). Also I was one of the bidder on this auction, but lost.!!!

This was one of the expensive FDC with 1948 Gandhi Stamps from India was sold in August. You can see other expensive Gandhi philately material sold in that month.

http://gandhistampsclub.blogspot.com/2012/08/gandhi-stamps-and-philately-material.html

Even chances of FAKE stamps are very high on used cover because they are available in plenty.

Do you think eBay got commission from this auction ?

Reason for thinking about this that all the bids you see might be FAKE or shill bidding and after auction closes seller and buyer mutually withdraw bid, so they don't have to pay commission.!!

Or buyer don't pay so seller will open case with eBay so seller will not have to pay commission.

Here if transaction is genuine eBay will get $450 + commission from Paypal which will be $200-$300!

Do you think eBay shareholder are CHEATED by buyer or seller ?

Chances are very high.

Please read my following blog post  and check out following images about following FAKE AND FORGED Gandhi stamps and philatelic cancellation.

Germany FAKE Cancellation with illegal usage of National Emblem 

FAKE 1948 Gandhi  stamps "JAI HIND" Cancellation
Forged 1911 Aerial Mail and Gandhi Philately 

Gandhi SERVICE FAKE Stamps and Governor Cancellation 

Forged 1948 Gandhi Nepal Indian Embassy Cancellation 

Please read following series of my blog post  to understand what is going on stamp collecting world specially in Indian Philatelic materials and you will think it's all BOGUS.!! Yes it's all BOGUS.!!

1) 1948 Stamps False hope of Riches?
2) 1948 Gandhi Stamps: Are False hope of Riches - Part II ?
3) 1948 Gandhi Mourning Private FDC : Are False hope of Riches - Part III?
4) 1948 Expensive Gandhi FDC : Are False hope of Riches - Part IV?
5) 1948 Gandhi Stamps Early Usage cover :  Gandhi Stamps Are False hope of Riches - Part V?
6) Maxi Card sold for $5100 with 1948 Gandhi Stamps - False hope of Riches - Part VI?
7) Indian Philately Exposed 
8) Indian Philately Exposed - Part II
9) First Aerial Post - Indian Philately Exposed - Part III
10) 1911 First Aerial Post - Allahabad - Indian Philately Exposed - Part IV

Now what do you think about this Nepal Indian Embassy cancellation send to Prime Minister.!! 

Yes. Prime Minister of Nepal.!!

So what do you think about this cover ?

Is it Genuine ?

Is it FAKE or BOGUS?

OR

Is it STOLEN?

My guess is 2nd options.!! So to me this is not worth collecting or investing in it.!!

But it's up to you to decide whether this kind of material is for you or not, as you have to pay.!!

Thanks
Gandhi Stamps Club.

Cover with Nepal Indian Embassy Cancellation on India Gandhi 1948 stamps : Avoid Collecting (Investing) in Repression!!

Hello Gandhi Collectors,

It's back again.!!.Forgery cover with 1948 Indian Embassy Nepal Cancellation on 1948 Gandhi Stamps.

Even after writing 3 blog posts about this Nepal Indian Embassy cancellation on 1948 Gandhi stamps cover, I still have  3 more questions about this.

1) How/Why stamps reached to Nepal Indian Embassy on/before 15-Aug-1948 ? Any used cover on that date with register mail?

Also it was Sunday so not do you think Embassy was open ? If open do you think they were busy doing rubber stamping instead of celebrating first anniversary of Independence of India.!!

2) Why we don't see FDC with official Post and Telegraph  cachets  with Gandhi portrait, which we see commonly see on  1948 Gandhi Stamps FDC ? 

Also why no special commemorative first day cancellation from Nepal Indian Embassy ? if Pondicherry has one.!!! even though Pondicherry was part of French until 1954.!! Think if P&T can arrange stamps then they can arrange  commemorative Jai Hind cancellation as well as official first day cover.!!

3) As this cover was mailed to Nepal address, was India Gandhi Stamps were valid for postage usage inside Nepal and if so who carried this mail to that address? Nepal post or Indian Post ? What was valid postal rate for this used cover.!! (Domestic rate or International rate, Airmail or Surface mail)!!

Please read my following other previous blog post about Nepal Indian Embassy Cancellation on Gandhi Stamps so you will get more knowledge about this cover.

http://gandhistampsclub.blogspot.com/2011/05/nepal-indian-embassy-mahatma-gandhi.html

Currently on ebay you will see three 1948 cover from Nepal Indian Embassy with 1948 Gandhi Stamps for sale. Only thing changed is Buy it Now or Best Offer instead of Auction type listing.!!!!!! and price is double/triple of last sale.!! (So no more shill bidding.!!!)

1.5 Annas Gandhi Ghandi 1948 issue (only 1 low value stamp of 4 values set) used from Indian Embassy (Nepal) 15 August 1948 was sold for $50.

After thinking about my above 3 questions it looks to me that this cover was not possible in 1948.!!! because communcation and transportation between India and Nepal was not fast as we used to see today. Also not sure what was the need to send stamps to Nepal Embassy on first day.!!. If stamps can reach in Nepal for cancellation on Aug 15, 1948  then cacheted cover from P&T should reach there too.!!

Do you think it might be backdated ?!! as there is no receiving CDS or just someone has rubber stamp of this cancellation!! (like we see in other high priced Gandhi Philately material.!!)

One more thing why it is coming out of 60+ years.!! and how many of you have seen 1948 Typewriting address FDC with Gandhi Stamps?

Do anyone has seen BPA or BPP expertising certification of this cover.??

Try to avoid this item until you don't get satisfied answer to all of the above questions and concerns and any other that might arise after reading this. Use your imagination what are the possibilities.?

If you pride yourself enjoying Genuine collection, you should do through research and exposing any suspicious activity going on.

I bought this Nepal FDC 2-3 years back and I still have this costly album because I paid high price($80 for low value Stamp!!) for this, but I want others should do more research before you buy it.!! I bought this because there was no research what to look before you buy, but now you have it.

NOT SURE WHETHER THEY HAVE GENUINE OR THEY ARE USING FORGERY OR BOGUS with or without knowingly.

This Indian Embassy of Nepal rubber stamps are also in Gandhi Handbook and other website so be careful when you use this philatelic material, because chances of FORGERY in this are very high as no one know what actual happen in 1948 or afterwards.!!

It will be very hard to find out what is genuine because there is nothing officially declared by Indian Government or Postal Department of India.

To me it looks like it has been created as per the demand and hobby goes popular.

If I have to buy it now (after 3 years in this hobby) I will avoid it because(now I know how Gandhi Philately works.!!) lot of research needed before this kind of cover with cancellation is to be consider Genuine.  I will not make my collection differently unique.!! with this kind of philatelic material because it needs lot of research.

As again more unique or rare more research is needed and still it will not convince if you think given all the situation, circumstances etc.

Do you think I want to decrease my value of collection by writing this information.?!!!  I also don't want to loose money on my investment, but I don't want to be proud or  happy or look happy with this kind of questionable Gandhi philately item if we cannot find TRUTH about this kind of cover.!!

One more thing I can't see more new collector to get trap like me.!! When I was bidding on auction, no information about all this and other Gandhi dealers/collectors were laughing at me and other well known philatelist who were trapped, but now I don't want  to laught or that dealers/collectors also don't want to laugh at other new collectors.!! This is for all RARE/UNIQUE Gandhi Philatelic material.!!


I hope this will help future collectors whether they really want to start collecting GANDHI stamps and philately.!!

Some useful blog post which might help you to protect yourself from this gruesome philately world.!!

1) 1948 Stamps False hope of Riches?
2) 1948 Gandhi Stamps: Are False hope of Riches - Part II ?
3) 1948 Gandhi Mourning Private FDC : Are False hope of Riches - Part III?
4) 1948 Expensive Gandhi FDC : Are False hope of Riches - Part IV?
5) 1948 Gandhi Stamps Early Usage cover :  Gandhi Stamps Are False hope of Riches - Part V?
6) Maxi Card sold for $5100 with 1948 Gandhi Stamps - False hope of Riches - Part VI?

Thanks
Gandhi Stamps Club.